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	<title>Comments on: The Biologic Institute, Bill Dembski, and ID Research in 2008</title>
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		<title>By: Pineyman</title>
		<link>http://blog.jmlynch.org/2009/01/02/the_biologic_institute_bill_de/comment-page-1/#comment-6066</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pineyman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ #7 -
Yes - it was when WAD announced Barry A was taking over.  He followed with an &quot;Oh, By the Way...&quot; to the sycophants.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #7 -<br />
Yes &#8211; it was when WAD announced Barry A was taking over.  He followed with an &#8220;Oh, By the Way&#8230;&#8221; to the sycophants.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob O'H</title>
		<link>http://blog.jmlynch.org/2009/01/02/the_biologic_institute_bill_de/comment-page-1/#comment-6065</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob O'H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 09:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I can&#039;t find where Dembski made the announcement, but I&#039;m fairly sure that he neither stated which paper was accepted or to which journal.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It was in a passing comment on UD.  I can&#039;t remember when, but I&#039;m sure the usual suspects will know and be able to point to where they mocked wMad for it.
I&#039;m amazed that the whole of the Biologic Institute has only produced four papers in a year.  I&#039;d expect each one of the senior researchers (Gonzales, Axe, Sternberg) to be producing at least that number.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I can&#8217;t find where Dembski made the announcement, but I&#8217;m fairly sure that he neither stated which paper was accepted or to which journal.</p></blockquote>
<p>It was in a passing comment on UD.  I can&#8217;t remember when, but I&#8217;m sure the usual suspects will know and be able to point to where they mocked wMad for it.<br />
I&#8217;m amazed that the whole of the Biologic Institute has only produced four papers in a year.  I&#8217;d expect each one of the senior researchers (Gonzales, Axe, Sternberg) to be producing at least that number.</p>
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		<title>By: RBH</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RBH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sparc wrote&lt;blockquote&gt;My experience is that one gets a vote from the reviewers much faster. And if they ask for additional data they won&#039;t give you 1.5 additional years.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Data?  C&#039;mon, this is Bill Dembski.  He don&#039;t need no steenkin&#039; data!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sparc wrote<br />
<blockquote>My experience is that one gets a vote from the reviewers much faster. And if they ask for additional data they won&#8217;t give you 1.5 additional years.</p></blockquote>
<p>Data?  C&#8217;mon, this is Bill Dembski.  He don&#8217;t need no steenkin&#8217; data!</p>
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		<title>By: sparc</title>
		<link>http://blog.jmlynch.org/2009/01/02/the_biologic_institute_bill_de/comment-page-1/#comment-6063</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sparc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 07:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to Marks&#039;s own web pages &quot;The Information Cost of No Free Lunch&quot; is not a paper published in a peer reviewed journal but a book chapter.
Interestingly William Dembski has some other titles on his
design inference pages (http://www.designinference.com/):
&lt;blockquote&gt;Conservation of Information in Search: Measuring the Cost of Success. &lt;b&gt;[posted 5jun07]&lt;/b&gt; Paper currently under review on the mathematical foundations of intelligent design coauthored with Robert J. Marks II. This paper develops a general method for critiquing inflated claims about the power of evolutionary computing&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Active Information in Evolutionary Search. &lt;b&gt;[posted 5jun07]&lt;/b&gt; Paper currently under review on the mathematical foundations of intelligent design coauthored with Robert J. Marks II. This paper critiques Olle Häggström&#039;s 2007 article in Biology and Philosophy titled &quot;Intelligent Design and the NFL Theorems.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Unacknowledged Information Costs in Evolutionary Computing: A Case Study on the Evolution of Nucleotide Binding Sites. &lt;b&gt;[posted 5jun07]&lt;/b&gt; Paper currently under review on the mathematical foundations of intelligent design coauthored with Robert J. Marks II. This paper critiques Thomas Schneider&#039;s 2000 article in Nucleic Acids Research titled &quot;Evolution of Biological Information.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;(embphasis mine)
Thus, today these three papers are &quot;under review&quot; for 578 days!
578 days!!!
My experience is that one gets a vote from the reviewers much faster. And if they ask for additional data they won&#039;t give you 1.5 additional years.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Marks&#8217;s own web pages &#8220;The Information Cost of No Free Lunch&#8221; is not a paper published in a peer reviewed journal but a book chapter.<br />
Interestingly William Dembski has some other titles on his<br />
design inference pages (<a href="http://www.designinference.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.designinference.com/</a>):</p>
<blockquote><p>Conservation of Information in Search: Measuring the Cost of Success. <b>[posted 5jun07]</b> Paper currently under review on the mathematical foundations of intelligent design coauthored with Robert J. Marks II. This paper develops a general method for critiquing inflated claims about the power of evolutionary computing</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Active Information in Evolutionary Search. <b>[posted 5jun07]</b> Paper currently under review on the mathematical foundations of intelligent design coauthored with Robert J. Marks II. This paper critiques Olle Häggström&#8217;s 2007 article in Biology and Philosophy titled &#8220;Intelligent Design and the NFL Theorems.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Unacknowledged Information Costs in Evolutionary Computing: A Case Study on the Evolution of Nucleotide Binding Sites. <b>[posted 5jun07]</b> Paper currently under review on the mathematical foundations of intelligent design coauthored with Robert J. Marks II. This paper critiques Thomas Schneider&#8217;s 2000 article in Nucleic Acids Research titled &#8220;Evolution of Biological Information.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>(embphasis mine)<br />
Thus, today these three papers are &#8220;under review&#8221; for 578 days!<br />
578 days!!!<br />
My experience is that one gets a vote from the reviewers much faster. And if they ask for additional data they won&#8217;t give you 1.5 additional years.</p>
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		<title>By: J-Dog</title>
		<link>http://blog.jmlynch.org/2009/01/02/the_biologic_institute_bill_de/comment-page-1/#comment-6062</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J-Dog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 03:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Based on the usual quality of the papers by Dembski, I would suspect the Journal is called MAD Magazine.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the usual quality of the papers by Dembski, I would suspect the Journal is called MAD Magazine.</p>
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		<title>By: John Lynch</title>
		<link>http://blog.jmlynch.org/2009/01/02/the_biologic_institute_bill_de/comment-page-1/#comment-6061</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Lynch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 01:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A little poking around over at Marks&#039; website reveals the accepted paper to be &quot;The Information Cost of No Free Lunch&quot; and no mention of a journal. See &lt;a href=&quot;http://marksmannet.com/RobertMarks/REPRINTS/Marks-Pubs.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://marksmannet.com/RobertMarks/REPRINTS/Marks-Pubs.htm&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little poking around over at Marks&#8217; website reveals the accepted paper to be &#8220;The Information Cost of No Free Lunch&#8221; and no mention of a journal. See <a href="http://marksmannet.com/RobertMarks/REPRINTS/Marks-Pubs.htm" rel="nofollow">http://marksmannet.com/RobertMarks/REPRINTS/Marks-Pubs.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: James F</title>
		<link>http://blog.jmlynch.org/2009/01/02/the_biologic_institute_bill_de/comment-page-1/#comment-6060</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James F]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry for not attaching a citation; &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2008/11/dembski_steps_down.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ed Brayton&lt;/a&gt; blogged about it earlier.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for not attaching a citation; <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2008/11/dembski_steps_down.php" rel="nofollow">Ed Brayton</a> blogged about it earlier.</p>
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		<title>By: MH</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark Chu-Carroll has a great post about how no free lunch has no bearing on evolution or ID that you&#039;re readers might like to take a look at.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/2008/12/fitness_landscapes_evolution_a.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/2008/12/fitness_landscapes_evolution_a.php&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Chu-Carroll has a great post about how no free lunch has no bearing on evolution or ID that you&#8217;re readers might like to take a look at.<br />
<a href="http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/2008/12/fitness_landscapes_evolution_a.php" rel="nofollow">http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/2008/12/fitness_landscapes_evolution_a.php</a></p>
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